Transfers in and out

bench warmer Age : 20 Joined : 24 Aug 2007 Posts : 102

Benitez normally has a kitty of 25 million quid, but just buys cheap spare parts for no apparent reason (Torres isnt but I cant recall of a great signing other than him in the last 3 yrs).

Subject: Re: Transfers in and out Sun May 25, 2008 2:24 am

well.. we didnt have "new owners" in the last 3 years...

we done have the money to compete with manU and chelsea... and it shows in the league.

same goes to arsenal... good team and good manager.. but very weak bench.

bench warmer Age : 20 Joined : 24 Aug 2007 Posts : 102

I'm not going to disagree with you, because I know Utd and Chelsea have a bigger kitty. Its just some of the people Benitez has brought in have been hog wash.

Out:

Craig Bellamy (West Ham United, £7.5m), Luis Garcia (Atletico Madrid, £2.7m), Momo Sissoko (Juventus, £5), Djibril Cisse (Marseille, Undisc.), Scott Carson (Aston Villa, Loan),

In:

Ryan Babel (Ajax Amsterdam, £11.52m), Alex Cooper (Ross County, £100k), Fernando Torres (Atletico Madrid, £26m), Yossi Benayoun (West Ham United, £5.5), Martin Skrtel (Zenit St Petersburg, Undisc.), Andriy Voronin (Bayer Leverkusen, Bosman),

Total fees paid: ~ 43.02
Total fees recieved:~15.02
Difference: £28 million

Other than Torres, did Liverpool improve? If they did, it was ever so slightly.

Now look at Utd:

In:

Owen Hargreaves (Bayern Munchen, £17m), Nani (Sporting, Undisc.), Anderson Oliveira (FC Porto, Undisc.), Carlos Tevez (West Ham United, ??).

Nani and Anderson came in from a combined fee of 16million quid. Tevez's transfer is about 23 million quid.

Out:

Gabriel Heinze (Real Madrid, £8.15m), Giuseppe Rossi (Villarreal, £6.74m), Alan Smith (Newcastle United, £6m), Kieran Richardson (Sunderland, £2m.).

Total fees paid:~56 m
Total fees recieved:22.89m
Difference: £33.11 m

So Utd spent around 5 million more and won the CL and Premiership. Where Liverpool finished 4th and in the Semi's. What does that tell you about Benitez's buys?

Subject: Re: Transfers in and out Sun May 25, 2008 8:44 pm

Excellent post dude!

Over the last few years, Rafa's been buying a lot, and not always very wisely.

Subject: Re: Transfers in and out Mon May 26, 2008 2:19 am

its not as simple as comparing the two clubs transfers over the past season..

manu already had their rooneys and rois and ronaldos...

whereas the only player we had that could compare to those players is gerrard...

now we have 2 .. torres

and i wont put agger and skertl on the same pedestal as rio and vidic... theyve not proven their salt yet.

i cant really complain about babel, theres obviously something in that player, only question is, how do we get it out....

if rafa succeeds.. than that makes it 3 good players in our squad..

and the catchup game continues..

i just hope that within that time, manU and chelsea dont buy another dozen star players and fuckin take the league to another level.. i dont want this to turn into another la liga (real/barca vs. the others)

bench warmer Age : 20 Joined : 24 Aug 2007 Posts : 102

I think the league has already elevated.

To be honest, I think Utd's bench is nearly as good as Liverpools starters.

Brown and Finnan= Brown
Evans and Agger= Agger ( I dont know if Agger plays from the bench or not, either way)
Alonso and Hargreaves= Hargreaves
Fletcher and Pennant= Fletcher

Obviously I took players who are more or less comparable.

Utd have 5 superstars: Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, Scholes, Rio.
Chelsea have 5: Drogba, Terry, Lampard, Cech, Essien
Liverpool have 2: Torres and Gerrard
Arsenal have 2: Cesc and Hleb ( I think he's magic).

Future stars (potiential)

Utd: Anderson, Nani, Ramsey(if bought) and Welbeck
Chelsea: Mikel, ???
Liverpool: Lucas, Leto ,Babel
Arsenal: Walcott, Adebayor, Vela.

Personally I think Liverpool are kidding themselves if they think they can match Utd or Chelsea's transfers, or Arsenals ability to pick up youngsters (Utd do a good job of that too). What Liverpool need to do, is stop worrying about Europe, and maybe consider rebuilding around Torres and Gerrard. They have key players like Babel, Lucas, Leto and Babel. What they need to do is build in young talent, and find some at a cheaper price and rebuild.

Subject: Re: Transfers in and out Mon May 26, 2008 10:28 pm

correction:

Arsenal: hleb left. and adebayor is already a star

Liverpool: Leto? ur kidding me.. you must mean Insua.

Lucas... i have mixed feelings about him

Chelsea: they dont need potential stars.. they BUY the ready package ;p

anyway... lets see what happens with the transfers

bench warmer Age : 20 Joined : 24 Aug 2007 Posts : 102

Correction:
Hleb played this season for Arsenal and was a superstar. Adebayor is a star but not a SUPERSTAR.

Leto has potiential from what I've seen. Maybe its because I watched him in Lanus . Did he even play for Liverpool this season?

Anyway, Mikel has good potiential (figures they stole him from Utd, typical Chelsea).

Subject: Re: Transfers in and out Tue May 27, 2008 2:20 am

leto played.. but didnt impress

ade i think is as good a striker as ur gonna get.. he has his ups and downs.. but compared to lets say ibra.. i prefer ade

bench warmer Age : 20 Joined : 24 Aug 2007 Posts : 102

You prefer Adebayor to Zlatan?

Subject: Re: Transfers in and out Wed May 28, 2008 12:24 am

bench warmer Age : 20 Joined : 24 Aug 2007 Posts : 102

Wow

Finishing wise I could see the debate, by Zlatan is amazing with the ball at his feet.

Subject: Re: Transfers in and out Wed May 28, 2008 9:13 pm

true .. but i dont think he can bother defenders the way ade does.. adebayor against ac milan did more than ive ever seen ibra do against them.

Subject: Re: Transfers in and out Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:22 am

Anybody wants to guess where Berbatov will end?.

I say he stays in tottenham...

Admin Joined : 29 Jul 2007 Posts : 306

manUre ... there is no fucking way sir alex is gonna leave him alone.

keep in mind... saha might leave at the end of this season.

and you dont really have any proper strikers. tevez and rooney are support strikers.

u miss having a targetman like RVN